21: Key to the door

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Ben and Hel are joined by the wonderful Dyfrig Williams of Wales Audit Office and Scumbag Familiar fame. On the Natteron menu in this episode:

* Trump and Brexit – are facts being outshined by drama?
* Games in public services
* Clever posters promoting train travel
* Listening more effectively
* Boiling frogs and Death Stars
* Loads of other stuff



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